Sunset over the Holy Shrine of The Báb (Baha'i World Centre, Haifa, Israel)

An Open Letter to Ex-Mormons and Post-Mormons

Did Joseph Smith Prophesy of Baha'u'llah?

Baha'u'llah is pronounced baw-haw-Oh-LAHHH. It means "The Glory of God" in Arabic.
Bahá'í is pronounced Baw-HIGH. It means "Belonging to Glory" in Arabic
"Draw near unto me and I will draw near unto you; seek Me dilligently and ye shall find Me." (D&C 88:63)

"Seek Him over the entire face of the Earth, haply ye may find Him." (Baha'u'llah)

Dear Seeker,

The Baha'i Faith is a worldwide independent religion with about 5 to 6 million Believers in 120 countries. It was founded by BAHA'U'LLAH (baw-haw-Oh-LAHHH), the Spirit of Truth and Holy Ghost incarnate. Baha'is (baw-HIGHZZ) believe that Baha'u'llah (1817-1892) was most recent, but not the final, Messenger of God to this planet. There are about 150,000 Baha'is in the U.S., and about 800 in Utah. The Baha'is believe in the following Principles:

Baha'is (baw-HIGHZZ) believe that BAHA'U'LLAH (baw-haw-Oh-LAHHH) is the last, but not final, in a long list of Messengers of God sent to this planet. The Messengers include Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Buddha, Krishna, Jesus, Muhammad, The Báb (a 19th century Persian Prophet), and Baha'u'llah. More Messengers of God will come in the future.

Baha'is believe that Baha'u'llah (1817-1892) is the Spirit of Truth, the Holy Ghost incarnate (in the flesh). Mormons are still waiting for the "Day" that the Holy Ghost will come to Earth (via the womb) and "get a body". Baha'is believe that "Day" came in 1817, when Baha'u'llah was born in Iran.

Baha'is accept Evolution (divinely-guided), that humans evolved from lower forms of life over billions of years. They believe that the "Adam" mentioned in the Book of Genesis was not the first man but the first of a "new race" of men. The "Adam" mentioned in the Book of Genesis was "the last of many Adams" that have appeared on this planet (quote from Shoghi Effendi--show-gee-ef-fen-dee-- who was Guardian of the Baha'i Faith from 1921 to his death in 1957).

The Baha'i Faith and Mormonism

Baha'is (baw-HIGHZZ) may believe any of the following regarding Joseph Smith:

A) he was a Seer who prophesied of Baha'u'llah in the capacity of a Seer (Pro-Joseph Smith view)

B) he was a fraud who wrote The Book of Mormon to make money and to get women (anti-Joseph Smith view)

C) no opinion either way (No-opinion Joseph Smith view).

Baha'is may have "any" of these three views, and most hold to the "No-opinion Joseph Smith View"; which means they don't know, nor do they care, if he was a Seer or a fraud. It means nothing to their lives. It is not "relevant" to their lives or their religion: the Baha'i Faith.

The online booklet THE BAHA'I FAITH: An Introduction for Mormons and Other Seekers of Truth takes a pro-Joseph Smith View; that he was a Seer and prophesied of Baha'u'llah (baw-haw-Oh-LAHHH), in the capacity of a Seer.

The terms "Prophet" and "Seer" mean the same thing in the Mormon religion, but in the Baha'i Faith a "Prophet" is very different from a "Seer". That is explained in THE BAHA'I FAITH: An Introduction for Mormons and Other Seekers of Truth which is linked below.

Mormons and ex-Mormons believe that Joseph Smith must "fall" within one of the two following categories:

A) A Prophet, the greatest man who ever lived except Jesus. Always honest. Always noble. Died a martyr. Went like a lamb to the slaughter. Died innocent. The Book of Mormon is an ancient record of Jewish prophets in Ancient America, written on gold plates (tablets), and translated by Joseph Smith.

B) A Fraud, a charlatan. A womanizer. A money-digger. A glass-looker. A deceiver. A liar. Possibly a murderer. Wicked. Evil. Selfish. Dishonest. Got his just reward at Carthage Jail in June of 1844. The Book of Mormon was written by Joseph Smith (by himself or in addition to others) as a way to make money. It is pure fiction.

For Mormons, and ex-Mormons, it is either "A" or "B". There is no "C". But, in THE BAHA'I FAITH: An Introduction for Mormons and Other Seekers of Truth, we shall present to you the "C".

C) Joseph Smith was a young man who did have the ability to "Find" lost and stolen property with his seerstone. His father "used" that to get work for himself and his friends between harvests. The Book of Mormon is not ancient American history, but a prophetic parable written by the Zionitic Brotherhood: a group of Rosicrucian monks who lived in Ephrata, Pennsylvania. They wrote it under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. One of them (the Angel Moroni) was a former member of the Brotherhood, who took the brass plates upon which the book was written, and commissioned Joseph Smith to translate it. The book is a prophetic parable about the future of America, and contains many symbols and metaphors. But Joseph Smith got involved in sexual sin and "fell" and "lost his gifts" as was foretold in D&C chapter 3: verses 3 through 12 (written in 1829). Joseph Smith lost all inspiration after his "fall"; which is why the 11 Witnesses left the Church. Joseph's "revelations" after his "fall" are not inspired by God (Book of Abraham, Kinderhood Plates, Nauvoo doctrines), but a "Seer" remained in the Church after Joseph's "fall"; finally leaving the Church in 1845. New Seers arose (Joseph Morris, George Williams, James Brighouse) after Joseph Smith, but none of them were Presidents of the Church.

Yes, believe it or not, we have plenty of "evidence" to "prove" that Option "C" is correct.

Xorol R. Oliver

Some Baha'is (Pro-Joseph Smith Baha'is) believe that Joseph Smith was indeed a "Seer" until he "fell" because of sexual sin. This was the view of Xorol (ksor-rawl) R. Oliver (1889-1967), a Mormon Seeress who was the first Mormon we know of who became a Baha'i. She delivered a group of lectures in 1930 in Berkeley, California, called Lectures on Kosmonic Science. In these Lectures she made startling prophecies, and she also taught a number of doctrines. Regarding Joseph Smith and The Book of Mormon, she taught the following:

*Joseph Smith was not a Prophet, but a Seer
*He did have the ability to find lost and stolen property, and because of this, he was chosen by the Brotherhood to translate The Book of Mormon from Latin.
*The Book of Mormon is a prophetic parable about America's future; not a history of its past.
*Joseph Smith "fell" into sexual sin (Fanny Algers) in 1835, and lost his "gifts" which is why The Book of Abraham is not inspired of God. Joseph created it to "prove" to his detractors that he still had the "gifts" (which he didn't).
*The Book of Mormon was written in Latin, in a script called "Tironian Latin" which is a Latin shorthand based upon Latin, Greek, and Hieratic Egyptian symbols. Tironian Latin script was commonly used by Catholic monks during the Middle Ages.
*His martyrdom at Carthage, Illinois, was Divine Wrath upon him, as was foretold in D&C 3:3-12.
*Joseph Smith was told by a "Voice" in 1843 that the Son of Man would come in "red apparel" in the year 1891, and "if" Joseph Smith lived until that time, he would "see the face of the Son of Man" (D&C 130:15), and this was fulfilled, in the year 1891, when Baha'u'llah (baw-haw-Oh-LAHHH), wearing red robes, climbed Mount Carmel, in Palestine, and uttered the "Tablet of Carmel" which says in part:

"Call out to Zion, O Carmel, and announce the joyful tidings. He Who was hid from mortal eyes is come. This is the Day to see the Face, and hear the Voice, of the Son of Man." (Tablet of Carmel, 1891)

*The "Voice" that told Joseph Smith that the Son of Man was coming in the year 1891, in red apparel, was the "Seer" who advised Joseph Smith after his fall, and finally left the Church in 1845.
*The true author of The Book of Mormon is not Joseph Smith, nor Oliver Cowdery, nor Sidney Rigdon, nor Solomon Spaulding, but the monks of the Zionitic Brotherhood, who had a round wooden temple on "Zion Hill" in Ephrata, Pennsylvania. They claimed to be heirs of the Melchizedek Priesthood. They baptized for the dead. They wore all white, and worshipped in a circle around a central altar in their round wooden temple.

Xorol (ksor-rawl) also taught that the Soul of Jesus would incarnate (become flesh) seven times on this planet: 3 times before Jesus, once as Jesus, and three times after Jesus! She said that the 6th incarnation of the Son of God came to Salt Lake City in late September 1912. This visit was covered by The Salt Lake Tribune at that time ( was!). We invite you to read more about that.

All the "evidence" for this is found online in the article: THE BAHA'I FAITH: An Introduction for Mormons and Other Seekers of Truth. That article is linked below.

Anti-Joseph Smith Baha'is

There are also Anti-Joseph Smith Baha'is who view him as a fraud; because they read anti-Mormon literature, and accept it at face value. Their view is equally valid in the Faith. The Baha'i Faith does not rise or fall on Joseph Smith and Mormonism. The Baha'i Faith is completely "independent" of the claims of Joseph Smith or Mormonism.

The Anti-Joseph Smith View, also called the "Anti-Mormon View" is best summed up in the book Letter to a CES Director by Jeremy Runnells; a former Mormon missionary. The book is available online in pdf format in 5 or 6 major world languages at:

One may also order the book CES Letter at this website:

Countering the Anti-Mormon View, is the Pro-Mormon View which seeks to provide pro-Mormon answers to anti-Mormon questions. The Pro-Mormon View (answers to anti-Mormon claims) can be found online at the FairMormon websites at:

Mormons who have left the Church (either resigning or simply walking away) who no longer believe that Joseph Smith was ever inspired of God, usually become Atheists or Agnostics. They are "done" with God and religion. These former Mormons, who call themselves "Post Mormons", form organizations for mutual support such as:

*Post-Mormons (chapters in most "Mormon" cities)

*Ex-Mormon Recovery Forum (

*Ex-Mormon Foundation (

Many Post-Mormons watch the Mormon Stories Podcasts by John Dehlin, who first started the podcasts in 2005 (

A small minority of Ex-Mormons become Evangelical Christians, or Spiritualists, or Buddhists, or Baha'is, or "spiritual but not religious".

Former Mormons who become Baha'is are about equally divided between Pro-Joseph Smith Baha'is and Anti-Joseph Smith Baha'is.

Most Baha'is are No-Opinion Joseph Smith. The subject does not concern nor interest them either way.

The Pro-Joseph Smith Baha'i View

An increasing number of Mormons, active and inactive, in Utah and elsewhere, are beginning to "investigate" the Baha'i Faith. The Faith shares some "shared principles" with Mormonism such as:

*The belief in on-going progressive Revelation
*The belief in Eternal Marriage.
*The belief in the Pre-Existence of human spirits.
*A history of being persecuted by "orthodox" Religions.

This website you are reading now takes a Pro-Joseph Smith Baha'i view: that he was a "Seer" who prophesied of Baha'u'llah (baw-haw-Oh-LAHHH), the Founder of the Baha'i Faith, in the capacity of a Seer. This view is equally as valid in the Faith as is the Anti-Joseph Smith Baha'i view, or the No-Opinion Joseph Smith Baha'i view. The Faith allows all three Views "equal time". None of these views are the "Official Baha'i" view. A Baha'i (baw-HIGH) may hold to any of those three views, and he may share his view with other Baha'is: as long as he does not become argumentative.

Some former Mormon who become Baha'is take the view that Joseph Smith was a Prophet, and that The Book of Mormon is literal history of Jews who settled in ancient America. They believe that the LDS Church was established to "prepare the way" for the Baha'i Faith: like John the Baptist "prepared the way" for Jesus Christ. Other former Mormons who become Baha'is take a very Anti-Joseph Smith view; that he was a fraud from Day One.

This website takes the view that Joseph Smith was not a Prophet but a Seer, and that Xorol (ksor-rawl) R. Oliver (d. 1967), was a Seer like Joseph Smith was, and that her prophecies and teachings are valid, scientifically provable, and from God. The "evidence" for this view is presented in the link at the bottom of this page.

Questions for the Reader

1) Could Xorol R. Oliver be right about Joseph Smith?
2) Could The Book of Mormon be a prophetic parable of America's future?
3) What did Xorol R. Oliver actually teach and prophesy?
4) What did Baha'u'llah teach and prophesy?
5) Could Baha'u'llah be the Holy Ghost incarnate (in the flesh)?
6) What is in store for America's future, according to Xorol R. Oliver?
7) Is the true origin of Mormonism and The Book of Mormon to be found in Ephrata, Pennsylvania?
8) Was Moroni a long-dead Nephite prophet, a figment of Joseph Smith's imagination, or a very real mortal man who came from Pennsylvania?
9) Was the Mormon Endowment Ceremony invented to prepare Mormons for the Afterlife, or was it invented for some other purpose?

We invite all Seekers of Truth to see the evidence for yourself and come to your own conclusion. The online booklet takes about one hour to read. It is in two parts. Enjoy your reading:

An Introduction for Mormons
And Other Seekers of Truth